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Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Day 8 - Marijuana Detox and Withdrawal

Posted by admin on March 25, 2008

Another day without smoking pot. Today was a better day. I was extremely busy today, and did not experience any intense cannabis withdrawal symptoms. The anxiety and dread that I was feeling is definitely in recession. I know that I am only 8 days in, but I feel like the worst part of the psychological detox is past me. Now I will need to deal with sobriety on a daily basis. The physical detox will take up to 3 months for all of the fat-soluble thc to be free from my system. Only after 3 months will I consider myself ‘clean’ from weed. Clean is not the same thing as recovered!

Sleep was also better last night - I got 7 hours and only woke up once. When smoking weed, I seemed to wake up a lot more during the night. Sometimes I would even awake, smoke a roach, then head straight back to bed. It appears that marijuana makes sleep come easy, but the quality of sleep is worse than a sober sleep would be. Anyone find the same thing happening to them.

Bucking Faked requested the ability to blog on their progress. I will be configuring and opening a Marijuana Addiction Support Forum this weekend. I don’t know if it will be on this site, or on another domain…I still need to work out the logistics.

  • Mytur Bin Izderty said,

    I guess it’s on the user. I smoked daily for 3 years and quit in one day. Give or take, not having any for a few days.(Have not smoked in 3 months). The only problem with my withdrawal was I was unable to sleep. But legal sleeping medication helped me no problem. I think yours is just a little dramatic.

  • admin said,

    Well don’t forget the post captures what is happening, as it is happening to me, including the mental state I am in when I write these things.

    Even I look back on my previous posts and think….damn! I remember how I felt when I wrote some of these posts….brutally honest, and hard to live up to when I go back and look at them.

  • lily said,

    Im so terrified how I am going to feel when I give it up.TERRIFIED! :cry:

  • meditatingmama said,

    :smile: Glad you posted at the other site…I’m at around 5 months clean now. I had one puff at a hallowe’en party and felt like a big phony. i still think about it once in awhile, then i think past it…like how I’ll feel about blowing 5 months….and how I’ll eat bad food….and disappoint myself….I’ve come so far….anyway…brutal honesty is the only way to fly….keep up the good work…i used to use daily…

  • lily said,

    Hey its not dramatic at all. Everyone is different.I am happy that someone could give up in one day.That is amazing.
    However,this is not the situation for everyone and like me some people rely on smoking for emotional reasons and to escape reality.Im at the point where I am ashamed of myself. :oops:

  • Tani said,

    @Mytur Bin Izderty -
    everyone is different! We all react differently to things. I don’t think the guy that runs this site *is* being dramatic - it is how life is for him. And he is not alone - that is how it is for my partner, myself and a whole bunch of other people I know. If quitting was easy for you then be grateful - not judgmental of others!

  • Trevor said,

    :grin: Keep going, I am at day 17, find it very hard to sleep.

    Sleepless in Oz

  • lily said,

    Hey Trevor,hey well done Im proud of you !
    I am trying to stop choofing once and for all,today was bad day,I mean I really felt low about myself.
    The sleep factor and anxiety worries me so I went to a place where they sell herbal remedies.I bought a tea called Damiana Tea.I tried it tonight for the first time and you know what it works,you feel relaxed.And you can drink as much as you like AND its good for your kidneys. :
    Maybe try it, it might help with the lack of sleep. :idea:

  • Mytur Bin Izderty said,

    All I am saying is…. I really believe this is dramatic. The ONLY possibility of this being fact, is if your weed was laced with cocaine. Now, I am an artist, and smoked for 3 years daily. But all together for 8 years. And I had MINOR withdrawals. MINOR!

    But then again, I have studied everything you need to know about marijuana. And, yes.. Marijuana can be addicting. But Hell, I had worse withdrawals when I stopped drinking caffeine.

    Conclusion:
    I do believe this is extremely dramatic. I think you should make this Cigarette-addict instead.

  • Trevor said,

    Thanks Lily,

    Well I clocked 3 weeks yesterday, and sleep is just starting to come. I make it a rule to be in bed by around 10.30 at the latest. I had a few hours sleep the last couple of nights, but it wasnt a deep sleep. Still, I know it is coming. Dont be terrified, it could probably be one of the best things you will have done

    You know, i had a bad couple of weeks at first, but it can only get better. You just have to hit that hump and get over it. I went to a party tonight, and was so glad not to be spliffing on. I mean I used to enjoy it, but then i realised how it was making me feel overall.

    I will try that tea. I also tried the 20 minute relaxation recording linked from here. It was great. I must have sat on the sofa for 20 minutes afterwards, just in a sort of hynpotic daze ! Then i put myself straight to bed.

    Who is this joker, “laced with cocaine !” How can you say ONLY posibility ? How would you know what was in my weed ? Coke is so expensive in Oz, no one ever laces it in grass ! haha 3 years, thats lightweight stuff !, I smoked for 30 years straight, and am not proud of it, but my conclusion is if you dont like or agree with the comments from people who are struggling to get of dope, go elsewhere. Do you still smoke Mytur Bin Izderty ? I only ask because i see heaps of comments from the doubters who say, ” I stop for a week or so with no problems” yet they still smoke. Or the guy who says he gets headaches when he doesnt smoke, hence he believes that dope cures his headaches. They are not yet ready to accept that the headaches are a withdrawl symptom, and if they stick it out, they will go away.

    Anyway, keep up the good work to all who are trying. :lol:

  • Mytur Bin Izderty said,

    If you could read. I said I have not smoked in 3 months. Oh and congratulations on smoking for 30 years! I guess you know all things.

    The laced with cocaine comment I made was metaphor. Simply saying that cocaine withdrawal is far worse than cannabis.

    “Or the guy who says he gets headaches when he doesnt smoke, hence he believes that dope cures his headaches.”

    People who use marijuana without thinking of consequences also show a great deal of withdraw because there altered perception or ideas on marijuana and feel that they have a need for it.

    I suggest, since we all at one time have smoked cannabis to research on it.

  • Tani said,

    @Mytur Bin Izderty,
    All people are saying is that each persons experience is different.
    Chill out and accept that your experience was good. Not everyone is so lucky. You even accept people are different in your last post where you wrote that people feel they have a need for it. Whether you think their need is real or not is immaterial - it is their experience, not yours, that they are going through. We are trying to support each other here - not belittle each other.
    Piss off if you are not into caring about other people.

  • James said,

    Marijuana addiction is a real thing and I don’t know what will replace it in my life. Smoking on my own for so long. I love the escape of it. It has become the only friend that i consistently call upon to cope. I’m ashamed too. Marijuana has suppressed my true feelings for years. Much love.

  • m. berke said,

    Yes! i’m restless all night long. it’s so interesting to find out that this happens to others!! and i get up in the middle of the night, smoke go back to sleep… god.. i recognize it’s ridiculous and yet it’s compulsive.

    so happy that you’ve made it past that. cheers!

  • TJ said,

    I probably speak for most when I say agree with Tani on her quote to Mytur Bin Izderty.
    My mate and I quit very recently after years of daily pot smoking and I’ve been diagnosed with an anxiety disorder caused from the sudden stop.
    At the same time, my mate who smoked it a few years less than I has a sleeping disorder, with the usual severe mood swings and stomach pains and constant bowel movements. I may note that he is a body builder and in top condition. (or was) We know these are only temporary conditions, but never-the-less…YES alot of people go thru this shit.
    You may have read alot about marijuana, but try asking a professional or doctor about it.
    We did!

  • jaredinfog said,

    I’ve been smoking up for about 9 years. Everything seems to be unraveling in a haze of nothingness. Each day doesn’t really mean anything and i’m starting to feel less and less and move slower and slower. I’ve tried to quit, wrote letters to myself, ect ect ect. But i keep going back to it. Im on to my last drop of motivation and I really need to stop. The years are very hard to remember, it all kind of blurs into little lapses in time that seem vague and distant. I need to stop

  • Sassy said,

    I just wanted to say that Mytur Bin Izderty, you sound like a know it all, been there done it better!
    Just let everyone share there experiences without your criticism. And to everyone else, stop responding to the nonsense responses he/she keeps posting. Remember, never argue with an idiot, everyone around you may not be able to tell the difference!
    Day 2 straight and trying not to pull my teeth out with pliers. (But hey, I’m probably just being a little dramatic)

  • JoeR said,

    I’ve gone about a week, with one day of relapse took a small toke on wed it is now friday. The guy who thinks this is dramatic is way off point, this week has been one of the more difficult ones in my life. It seems in the morning my anxiety begins and then I have to have some sort of release, crying or talking it out or something to feel better again (and I’ve never been one to cry), and even then I’m not well. I’m glad to hear that each day it gets better but it does worry me- reading about people further down the line that are having trouble. One thing that has been different for me is my sleep, it has been pretty good thus far, I think its because I’ve been so productive and busy. I do have a new found energy and I am getting shit down which is nice. I feel like I’ve been numbing myself for years I’ve been toking almost everyday for 10 years and it feels so good to stop, but its just the beginning…. We’ll see what happens (I have weed in the cupboard waiting to be smoked but currently have no desire to smoke it)

  • silly billy said,

    Withdrawl is real, just ask an M.D. I have smoked for 20 years, quit multiple times. Its like any other big change in your life. If you dont really want it then you WILL fail.

  • W said,

    I’m on day 3 now of quitting and It sucks. I noticed depression setting in, I’ve been smoking since I was 16 and I’m 24. When I go out I feel like I should be high, or I feel like It’s unusual to be sober.

    It’s gonna be tough to quit, and I have before, but I usually fail down the line. Once I quit for 2 weeks by jogging twice a day, every day.

    The hardest part is the first few days, I get anxiety attacks, hot and cold flashes, angry, and I lay awake, unable to sleep for hours on end, even when I’m very tired.

    It’s quite tough on me but I’m really gonna try to quit for good this time. I loved it but in some ways It has cost me down the line.

    I would usually smoke at least 5-6 bowls per day at the least. I’d smoke before watching my favorite show, loading up my favorite game, or even before eating pizza. Sleep was never a problem, just smoke a bowl and done.

    My friends at times have helped lead to my relapse, but really It was my weak will and that I wanted to smoke. Like I’ve heard others say, you have to want to quit yourself. If you want to quit but your friends smoke, then take a break from them, until you can clear your head. Instead of smoking do things that will occupy your time, so that you don’t think about it. It is really hard to quit, not for everyone, but If you get all those symptoms I listed above then you understand.

    Good luck to all on quitting, It should be legal really, but that’s a different discussion for a different time.

    Just remember:

    *Have other things to help you at the start, Melatonin for example for sleeping or anything to cure your symptoms. I don’t recommend drinking to replace pot, It can lead you down a bad path. If you have a girlfriend keep her around to support you. Make sure you keep your fluids up, drink gatorade. Once I had a panic attack(low fluids) when I tried to quit, and had to goto the hospital cuz I couldn’t stop it. Keep busy doing whatever else you can. If you smoke cigs then smoke one whenever you have a craving to smoke a bowl.

  • W said,

    Oh and one more thing, don’t let yourself get depressed or cry. If you do then you might be on the way to a panic attack. Call friends or relatives to comfort you or simply keep busy.
    Low fluids = good game

  • Rose Red said,

    I keep my addiction a deep dark secret.. i can’t even say how much time i spend berating myself about this habit i cannot seem to kick.. i am so angry and upset with myself, as after 8 years of smoking, i gave up for almost 2 years. I started because i was having trouble sleeping. My life changed dramatically in this time after i gave up….for the better. Giving up was hard, for 2 months i barely slept.. i felt like i was falling apart .. Then everything came pouring out, became clearer.. i started to take responsibility for my life instead of always trying to blame others, I experienced so much happiness, learnt so much about myself, felt so many emotions, felt compassion, had a thirst for knowledge, found my hidden creativity, had goals - and a beautiful life plan.. i studied and became a alternative therapy practitioner, became crystal healing qualified and helped people at difficult times of their lives.. i had this wonderful plan…… i started again after a stupid thought i could have a joint at a party on NYE and not want anymore, which escalated quickly into my old habits.. and i have spent the last 18 months in a state of denial about the truth of my addiction.. i am so glad to have found this site.. reading about peoples experiences makes me realise that i am not alone in this struggle.. i am determined to figure out what is is that is holding me back..because pot is holding me back.. thank you so much to the person who made this site..

  • Rose Red said,

    To clarify my last comment, i am determined to figure why i am scared of moving forward and embracing the life i did have, instead of turning back to weed. i believe that addiction is part of many peoples path and lessons in this life.. and it takes a very strong person to beat any addiction and the rewards for doing so are never ending. i have read a lot of comments on this site where people are belittling and almost making fun of content being discussed (and because of this i almost retracted my post)When you have been smoking for years and years like some of us, the chemicals in weed do affect you in many ways, and are linked to mental illness. So when you stop and are recovering.. it takes a while for you to feel normal again, have a great sleep, to be able to look at things rationally, make good solid decisions, solve problems, cherish friendships, family and relationships. People who have never been addicted to pot cannot really make a comment as they have not experienced it. This is very real. And it isnt a joke. I proved to myself what things i am capable of ..which is why i cannot understand how i could let myself go down this path again..i will have given up by Christmas, i have done it once and I will do it again and never go back this time ..guys.. good luck to you all..keep busy.. you can do it.. :grin:

  • W said,

    Don’t give up Rose, there are plenty of others like yourself, like me. I understand what you’re going through. It’s like day 4 or 5 of my quitting now and I got drunk tonight. It was the only way I could take my mind off the hunger to smoke, and one night getting drunk won’t hurt.

    For sleep last night I used 2x Tylenol PMs. It was quick and I passed out without trouble. Since I drank tonight I will try 1 Melatonin and hope for the best.

    After 1-2 weeks I should be fully back to normal and jogging. That seems to help keep me busy, and I set goals. I’ll jog a certain distance in a certain amount of time, like the ARMY or something. It’s the only way I can manage my bordem, and keep my mind off the nugs.

  • Rose Red said,

    W.. thanks for that..good luck on your journey.. i’m sending you positive vibes and i hope you slept well :grin: it’s helped so much reading these posts.. i knew i needed some support and stumbled across this site last week .. because its a secret i havent admitted to anyone, it really helped to write my posts last night. Just seeing it written in black and white really hit home to me.
    Keep busy and take care all :grin:

  • W said,

    I did it, it’s been almost 2 weeks now since I last smoked. I have used drinking alot to sling-shot myself through these weeks, which may have been a bad move. Next move is to cut out drinking completely and then find a nice drug-test required job.

  • Ari said,

    it’s my 1st day of cold turkey, quiting this shit after 10 years of using every night.I am a very private person -especially when it comes to my using and it’s the first time I have ever written abything to any forum. “W” inspired me. I ‘d like to be talking with you if you can go back to the first “dark” days with me, to help me. I have quit again in the past , sometimes for months ,replaced it with running everyday and a glass of wine.I hate alcohol and any other drug , but I need some wine to drink something when I smoke, it messes up my stomach. I don’t find it hard stay away from pot, i find extremely hard to live everyday life without the sense of “living on the wild side” kind of thing. I feel i am too normal whithout pot in my life. The empty space I fill with pot, the hours I am at home,alert and active, the normal life makes me sick.

  • Cat said,

    Hello everyone -

    I am on day 1 of quitting. I have been smoking weed on and off pretty regularly since I was 16. I am now 42 and I’ve had enough of it. Everyone I know smokes a lot more than I do and have - even people older than I am and I’m just tired of being around it too. I am an artist and so the art/music scene I hang out in is full of drugs.

    I have tried to quit before, but this time I am pretty serious about it. In order not to overwhelm myself, I am just telling myself to quit for 30 days. It’s not like I can’t go back to it. It will always be there.

    I also suffer from depression and I need to see how I do without it though I often feel that it helps me. The summer before last, I went 3 weeks without it and I did start to feel clearer, more focused, and even more attractive for some reason.

    I think weed tends to make me hyper-focus on my flaws, even physical and just hyper-focus on the wrong things anyway.

    I ran out and so I will not buy anymore. I also need a good excuse to stay away from this scene for a while, as I got hurt in a relationship and I don’t want to run into the man or be reminded of him anymore. Since he was a total pot-head, too, it will make me feel better that I am not with him any longer. One of the reasons I broke up with him, too, is that I knew I would never get out of the weed trap while with him. He always has it, has the money to buy it, and a nice vaporizer.

    Anyway, I am also planning to attend some 12-step meetings just to get the support for a while. I really don’t like a lot of that stuff, but I can take what I like and leave the rest to help me out here.

    I just know that if I can get through this, my life will make more sense to me and I will be able to focus on much more and make some progress in areas I have been wanting to progress in.

    Besides, I also need to leave myself open to meeting some cool people (and maybe another man) that are not pot-heads and don’t want to date a pot-head either.

    Thanks!
    Cat

  • Cat W. said,

    I am on Day 2 and I intend to hang in there, knowing that this time I really want to quit this insidious little demon of an addiction. Because I know if I lapse, I will only have to go through this all over again. Good for everyone who is quitting! Good for us!!! We got smart!

    Ari, I know what you mean. On some weird level I feel the same way. Can I handle a more “grown up” rational, reality-based life. Yes I can! I want to as I know it is going to be so much better. I can still be wild and adventurous without a substance backing me up. I just have to be careful to stay away from certain groups of people for a while.

  • Rose Red said,

    Cat W - life is so much better after the pot, believe me,, you just have to get past all the crap to get there.. Good luck :)

    Good luck to you also Ari..

    W - awesome stuff.. hope your sleeping better..

  • Ari said,

    Cat and Rose Red thank you for the optimism and your good energies..

    The thing is that although I was really charged up about quiting that day I wrote to this blog, I relapsed because of a very stresfull event in my life the 2nd day, and thought I couldnt deal with the cravings and sadness together that week.Another excuse, yes.

    The thing is that I KNOW that everything will be better after I quit.I know it and I need it. I am just too lazy to do the work to get there, and also I have to fight back the plasmatic teenager restlesness that makes me feel that if i live a politically correct life /be like everybody else, it will make me feel dead and ordinary.You see, I must be confused: i feel that going to the gym or out to socialize anyone after work , will make me feel ordinary, predictable.So I choose to waste my time smoking and thinking about the things I ‘d like to live or do. Such a vicious cycle! But that’s a shrink’s job i think, it goes further than the observed behavior, somewhere, sometime, I learned something wrong and I live my life wrong.Iam working on that with a lot of commitment and I believe that as soon as I get rid of these stupid beliefs, I will be free from the need to hide away and smoke pot.

    Keep up the hard work, and Ithaka will be waiting!

  • Ari said,

    Hey Cat,

    I ‘d like to be talking to you if we could and if you’d like.I’am too interested in the “handling of a normal, adult life” issue, nobody so far has mentioned to me that as a problem in quiting.Maybe they don’t realize like that.

  • Rose Red said,

    Ari.. you relapsed and thats ok. We have all done it many times. you may again and you may not. Smoking is fun, smoking is an escape.. i hear you and know where you are coming from.. when you quit you have to fill every spare second you have with other things to keep you busy until you get past the cravings. Smoking supresses your feelings, so when you stop you acutally start to get to know yourself and be honest with yourself. Look at quitting as an opportunity that creates the time to do things you have always wanted to to do. Life isnt boring and normal, its what you make of it.. im still struggling with giving up for the second time myself..and its really hard. I cannot practise the line of work i have trained in until i have quit, or i am just lying to myself and others. Thats my motivation right there. I either stay in the rut i am in now, or i move forward.

  • Rose Red said,

    i also would like to know how Trevor is doing?
    where are you Trevor?

  • mercedes said,

    hi guys

    thanks for posting all ur comments.
    i stopped smoking weed yesterday. this is my 3rd attempt now to stop for good so i no how difficult it really is. ive been smoking weed since the age of 15 im 22 now and i am ashamed and disgusted with the person ive become over them years. the longest time i stopped for was 2 months and during that time i realised that life without weed was soo much betta i was alive again and life was so much easier. then when things were going well i messed up again and started smoking heavy again i smoke everyday and i have a serious love hate relationship with weed. but right now i hate it more than i love it. anyway im gonna keep this 1st post short and sweet but i will be commenting regulary on the site to let you all no how im getting on 2day is day 2 so its gonna be a big struggle from now on but im ready for it - bring it on -

  • Mike said,

    Hi Everyone, yeah my experience with pot started when i was 16 and got addicted to it and had mad withdrawals. Now I am 23 and I have been smoking again since i was 20 and honsetly have beeen keeping pretty good control over it. I guess its cause back then i was EXTREMELY depressed, now i find i can go on literally 4 days of smoking non stop and not have any negative side effects. I also attribute this to the dose, which was 3 times a day , huge bowls out of a bong. Now it is only a puff from a pipe and an occasional joint on saturday or friday. I guess im lucky to not have the same withdrawals as when i was 16. Its been 2 days so far after a month long binge and….not even a thought about cannabis has entered my mind O craving. I also guess its because i dont find it as enjoyable anymore. But seriously good luck man, I feel you

  • Steve said,

    Hi, I’ve been smoking pot since I was 12 and I’m now 43. I have periodically taken breaks (4-6 weeks) but have always gone back. Over the past few years I have been a daily user, starting mid afternoon, and usually smoke about a joint a day. The problem for me is that I’m a somewhat successful musician and composer and have integrated getting high with my daily creative process. When I force myself to go on sabbatical periodically I tend to be FAR less productive. I tend to do the minimum amount of work and find myself in a very uncreative state - wanting to just watch TV all day and night. Intellectually I argue with myself about the rationale of that thinking: I shouldn’t need pot to be creative and productive. So my fear now is, as always, if I stop smoking pot for good I may lose that creative edge and possibly - my livelihood. Yikes.

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